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Luhnow on the July 2 signings

I asked Jeff Luhnow if he could provide us with details on the new Latin American signees, and he was kind enough to oblige. Here are his words on the newest Cardinals:

Roberto De La Cruz. He runs a 6.9 60 yard dash (slightly above average), but he’s probably not going to get faster as he matures because he will get bigger and stronger. His hands and feet work really well at 3b and he has plenty of range to play that position. He can handle short now but his range will be limited there and he doesn’t have the body type to play there. He has a strong lower half and generates bat speed and power by using his middle. I gave his arm an average grade for 3b as he made all the plays. I was impressed by how he started the 5-4-3 double plays… quick release and accurate throws. He has a short stroke to the ball and follows through (short to, long through). I saw him drive three 88-92 mph fastballs - one to left, one up the middle, and one to right. He also sat on a 82 mph slider and punched it to right for a single. While some have compared him to Villalona (who will play in the futures game) I don’t think they are the same guy. Villalona (whom we scouted extensively) had more developed power at this stage but we felt was less likely to stick at third and more likely to be a first baseman. (Erik: That’s Angel Villalona of the Giants who he’s referring to, as I’m sure most of you are aware.)

Santos Franco. There are quite a few similarities between Franco and (Michel) Inoa… both of whom we saw many times over the course of the past few years. Both are similar in stature and body type. Inoa throws harder right now and is more polished (truly a special talent). Franco has a fastball in the 87 to 92 range during workouts and 2 inning stints, so he will likely start his career pitching at 87 to 88. However, he is only 16 and has a loose, projectable arm. He should have a plus (92-93) possibly a plus plus (94+) fastball as he matures. He throws both a breaking ball and a change up, and has decent control (he’s around the zone with an occasional miss). We really like his work ethic and attitude and he will be very coachable. With some tweaking, his mechanics could be exceptional and he could be a fast mover in our system.

Cesar Valera. This young shortstop was in the same program as the most high profile position player in Latin America, Yorman Rodriguez. We saw Yorman over a dozen times over the past 24 months (I personally have seen him 5 times - there is a lot to like) and we found ourselves talking about this shortstop every time we visited their program or had them to our academy. He has a very sound approach at the plate and generates above average bat speed. He is about an average runner right now, and he could get better as he matures, but I typically don’t like to project increases in speed because I don’t see it that often. He can pick it at short and will stay there. He has gap power and will develop over the fence power. Enrique Brito advocated strongly for this player and I have always trusted his ability to judge talent - he has signed or recommended over a dozen big league players from Venezuela.

Dennis Montero. The main thing that stuck out for me about this kid is his ability to throw strikes. We don’t see that too often in a 16 year old. His fastball is already average, and he has a swing and miss change up along with a breaking ball he can get over for strikes. We really like his pitching mechanics and believe he will get better quickly.

Grabiel Hernandez. For us, the top fielding shortstop in this year’s crop. Not a big guy, so he can get lost in the crowd, until you see him pick the ball over and over again and he is truly impressive. He has gold glove potential if his bat comes along. He is a switch hitter and should remain that way as he makes contact consistently. He’s not a power guy, but if he’s able to hit enough singles and doubles, he could be a special two way player.

Jose Weffer. A very young (just turned 16) left handed pitcher with a bright future. His fastball is below average now (as it is for many young future stars) but he has deception and command so that his 84 plays like 89. He might have a plus change up and an average to plus curveball. Exciting project who might take a few years to develop but should be good.

Thanks to Mr. Luhnow for sharing this info with us.

I don’t know about you, but I’m thrilled to see the Cardinals really open up the purse strings and sign what sounds like some very promising talent. According to the P-D, De La Cruz (or Pina) was signed for a bonus exceeding a million dollars, and both Franco and Valera were signed for over $500 K each. I am particularly excited about Pina (er…De La Cruz…I’m used to calling him Pina, sorry.) I actually was able to talk to a baseball insider in the DR, and he essentially said De La Cruz wasn’t a super high ceiling guy, but is about as sure of a thing to hit 20 homers in the big leagues as you can find there. (Which sounds like a pretty high ceiling to me). This person also noted that Franco was more of a high reward/high risk guy who’s all arms and legs right now. They felt uncertain if his coordination comes around, but at worst they felt he’d be a back-end bullpen guy because of his fastball.

17 Responses to “Luhnow on the July 2 signings”

  1. will these guys play in our system this year?

    and when they do im guessing in our latin league team leagues?

  2. they’ll likely play in the fall instructional league this year, and then based on that they will either play for the GCL or assigned to the campus in the DR/VZ.

  3. Thanks, this is exactly what I was asking for over at Bernies.

    So perfect!!

    I really wonder if the Cards will continue to put pressure on Yorman until the is officially signed by the Reds?

    For those who follow college FB/BB recruiting..until you sign on the dotted line..that verbal/handshake agreement is worthless.

    Go get Yorman!

  4. well i finally got back in town, and this is a great write up to get me caught up on these latin guys. i think me and pickle both agree that we like shortstops, so 2 of those is nice. i also think 3rd base is an important position and it is nice to have some upside at that spot if wallace can’t stick. its also great to have a 16 year old with a frame like that who can already touch 92. very exciting.

  5. Off topic, Wallace went deep tonight.

  6. Thanks a lot Erik(and Jeff Luhnow)!

    Just an excellent group of signings by the Birds. Can’t wait til these guys mature.

    BTW, turkeytom, players that are signed during this signing period are not allowed to play for their clubs farm system this year. Like Erik said, they’ll probably start in the instructional leagues.

  7. this is also off topic, but I saw from scout.com that hearther was outrighted off the 40 man roster. Who are they adding in his place?

  8. Thanks a ton erik and Luhnow. I really appreciate these write-ups on our newest ‘draft’ class.

    Would you all be willing to consider providing semi-projection MLB comps for the players? I was thinking Izturis would be a good comp for Grabiel Hernandez.

  9. Swirls, you read my mind re: Hernandez. Maybe he could be Izturis, but with 20-30 more points of batting average, which would make him an above average SS overall.

    Isn’t it rumored that Yorman will be signed for “a record bonus”? If that means more $ than Inoa…well, I honestly don’t want the Birds putting that much money into one guy. Kids *that* young just can’t be projected reliably enough to justify such a massive investment–to me, anyway.

  10. Yeah there have been a lot of rumors going around that Yorman will be setting the new bonus record. Not totally sure how accurate that is but I can definitely see it happening if a few teams feel they have to steal him from Cincy because they missed out on their top choices.

    Bob I agree with you, 4+ million is a little too much to be throwing at a 16 year old. Its just way to hard to tell if that investment will pay off.

  11. Is there any kind of “mentoring” program set up for these kids, to help them get adjusted to the very different world of pro ball after what they’ve had for their first 16+ years? I’m thinking of something like what the women’s pro tennis tour does for early-career pros, to reduce the number that have Jennifer-Capriati-like flameouts. The difference in maturity between a 16YO (even a really exceptional one) and even an 18YO is so great that something like this strikes me as durn near necessary; giving a 16-year-old a million bucks, with the “hope” that he’ll behave responsibly, is an invitation to disaster.

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  13. So glad to see the Cards upping the ante dollar-wise on the Latin Players front. And thanks to Luhnow for the chats and Q & A’s and being much more open to discuss.

  14. Late to the party, but awesome info. Thanks as always, gents.

  15. don worried you could still call him…pina,you wont be wrong.

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