Comments on: Redbird rookie Pitch F/X http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:26:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: the red baron http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/#comment-16607 the red baron Wed, 07 May 2008 10:26:48 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1160#comment-16607 You know, in my, (admittedly limited) experience with Parisi, I've kind of always thought he'd make a nice reliever. The couple extra ticks on his heater would put him pretty consistently in that 92-93 range, and the way he improvises and alters the break on his curveball, I think he could just overwhelm hitters with it. He can throw several different versions of his curve, and he could just gear up and blow a fastball by hitters while they're still trying to figure out just which slop they should be looking for. McClellan, to me, looks like he could be a reliever or starter equally well. I think his repertoire would play just fine either way. You know, in my, (admittedly limited) experience with Parisi, I’ve kind of always thought he’d make a nice reliever. The couple extra ticks on his heater would put him pretty consistently in that 92-93 range, and the way he improvises and alters the break on his curveball, I think he could just overwhelm hitters with it.

He can throw several different versions of his curve, and he could just gear up and blow a fastball by hitters while they’re still trying to figure out just which slop they should be looking for.

McClellan, to me, looks like he could be a reliever or starter equally well. I think his repertoire would play just fine either way.

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By: mike http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/#comment-16599 mike Wed, 07 May 2008 00:01:59 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1160#comment-16599 parisi was definitely jacked up last night as evidenced by his erratic command, especially of his fb. The curve did look good, though. I had fun tracking that break from the first base line. parisi was definitely jacked up last night as evidenced by his erratic command, especially of his fb. The curve did look good, though. I had fun tracking that break from the first base line.

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By: Todd http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/#comment-16598 Todd Tue, 06 May 2008 22:25:22 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1160#comment-16598 I don't think so, Beau. In four minor league seasons: Reyes, 23-10, 3.26 ERA, 9.72 k/9, 1.89 BB/9, 1.05 Whip vs. Haren, 32-17, 3.15 ERA, 8.77 k/9, 1.63 BB/9, 1.13 Whip Reyes has a better winning percentage, more k's per nine innings, and a lower whip. Plus they are very close in the other categories. You may have been able to predict it, but not based on the numbers. I don’t think so, Beau. In four minor league seasons:

Reyes, 23-10, 3.26 ERA, 9.72 k/9, 1.89 BB/9, 1.05 Whip

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Haren, 32-17, 3.15 ERA, 8.77 k/9, 1.63 BB/9, 1.13 Whip

Reyes has a better winning percentage, more k’s per nine innings, and a lower whip. Plus they are very close in the other categories. You may have been able to predict it, but not based on the numbers.

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By: Beau http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/#comment-16596 Beau Tue, 06 May 2008 21:39:06 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1160#comment-16596 Dan Haren was predictably better than Reyes, based on better minor league numbers. Dan Haren was predictably better than Reyes, based on better minor league numbers.

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By: Pierce http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/#comment-16588 Pierce Tue, 06 May 2008 19:52:37 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1160#comment-16588 I wouldn't be surprised if they brought Jaime Garcia along in a bullpen role next year and groom him for a starters role in 2010. Although, they could bring Garcia up later this year for a bullpen role and then give him a starting job in 2009. Either way, they're going to have a lot of pitching options next year. With Worrell, Motte, and Perez all ready for spots and McClellan and Garcia ready for starting roles, they'll have quite a bit of money freed up to spend on impact bats. A rotation of Carpenter, Wainwright, McClellan, Garcia, Pineiro/Free Agent Starter/Boggs, etc will look pretty nice going into 2009. I do think they need to acquire a #2/#3 starter just to be on the safe side for next year. Like I said, they'll have quite a bit of money coming off of the books at the end of the year, so they'll have plenty of options. I wouldn’t be surprised if they brought Jaime Garcia along in a bullpen role next year and groom him for a starters role in 2010. Although, they could bring Garcia up later this year for a bullpen role and then give him a starting job in 2009.

Either way, they’re going to have a lot of pitching options next year. With Worrell, Motte, and Perez all ready for spots and McClellan and Garcia ready for starting roles, they’ll have quite a bit of money freed up to spend on impact bats.

A rotation of Carpenter, Wainwright, McClellan, Garcia, Pineiro/Free Agent Starter/Boggs, etc will look pretty nice going into 2009. I do think they need to acquire a #2/#3 starter just to be on the safe side for next year. Like I said, they’ll have quite a bit of money coming off of the books at the end of the year, so they’ll have plenty of options.

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By: Todd http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/#comment-16587 Todd Tue, 06 May 2008 19:41:24 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1160#comment-16587 Also posted there, check out: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2008/index.jsp?mc=martin Some just have pictures, but some have video. Ethan Martin has hit 96 on the gun as a HS. I wouldn't mind seeing the Cards look his way at 13. He's got a big body and reportedly has three above average pitches that could all end up being plus (I guess the fastball already is). I've read some places that Aaron Hicks has some of the best tools, but it's been more projection than performance. It's going to be really interesting. I wish we had more than one early pick. Also posted there, check out:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2008/index.jsp?mc=martin

Some just have pictures, but some have video. Ethan Martin has hit 96 on the gun as a HS. I wouldn’t mind seeing the Cards look his way at 13. He’s got a big body and reportedly has three above average pitches that could all end up being plus (I guess the fastball already is).

I’ve read some places that Aaron Hicks has some of the best tools, but it’s been more projection than performance. It’s going to be really interesting. I wish we had more than one early pick.

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By: Todd http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/#comment-16586 Todd Tue, 06 May 2008 19:28:46 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1160#comment-16586 Also, check out: http://www.athleticsnation.com/2008/5/6/473212/monday-midnight-minors-mus The A's pick at 12 so the analysis is pretty applicable to us. Not a lot of new stuff there, but good stuff nonetheless. He notably leaves out Shooter Hunt out of the starters discussed. He also leaves out some of the relievers that get discussed as first rounders, but I doubt the A's or Cards will be taking a reliever in the 1st round (I hope the Cards don't). Also, check out: http://www.athleticsnation.com/2008/5/6/473212/monday-midnight-minors-mus

The A’s pick at 12 so the analysis is pretty applicable to us. Not a lot of new stuff there, but good stuff nonetheless. He notably leaves out Shooter Hunt out of the starters discussed. He also leaves out some of the relievers that get discussed as first rounders, but I doubt the A’s or Cards will be taking a reliever in the 1st round (I hope the Cards don’t).

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By: Todd http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/#comment-16584 Todd Tue, 06 May 2008 17:41:16 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1160#comment-16584 I'm not convinced that either Parisi or Boggs is a major league starter. Maybe one of them could be a fifth starter, but that seems to kind of be their ceiling. Plus, Piniero is under contract for 09, so we would have to figure something out to do with him. One of those guys could take over the long reliever/spot starter role if Piniero is back. Plus, the above rotation is two rookies, a first year starter, and a pitcher a year removed from TJ...I'm not sure the Cards would be comfortable with so many Qs, and Dave Duncan usually seems to like reclamation projects with track records a little better with brand new guys. On another note - I really hope Anthony Reyes doesn't become the next Dan Haren. If we do trade him, I wish him success but I will also be pissed at him. I feel like he's gotten much more of an opportunity to try to stick than Haren did, though, so the situation is already very different in terms of how the team handled it. Evidently Duncan did not want to trade Haren, which might also be different. I’m not convinced that either Parisi or Boggs is a major league starter. Maybe one of them could be a fifth starter, but that seems to kind of be their ceiling.

Plus, Piniero is under contract for 09, so we would have to figure something out to do with him. One of those guys could take over the long reliever/spot starter role if Piniero is back. Plus, the above rotation is two rookies, a first year starter, and a pitcher a year removed from TJ…I’m not sure the Cards would be comfortable with so many Qs, and Dave Duncan usually seems to like reclamation projects with track records a little better with brand new guys.

On another note - I really hope Anthony Reyes doesn’t become the next Dan Haren. If we do trade him, I wish him success but I will also be pissed at him. I feel like he’s gotten much more of an opportunity to try to stick than Haren did, though, so the situation is already very different in terms of how the team handled it. Evidently Duncan did not want to trade Haren, which might also be different.

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By: Matt http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/06/redbird-rookie-pitch-fx/#comment-16579 Matt Tue, 06 May 2008 16:35:42 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1160#comment-16579 That'd make a lot of homegrown SP talent next year.. and a very cheap rotation. Carpenter, Wainwright, McClellan, Garcia, Parisi/Boggs in 09? That’d make a lot of homegrown SP talent next year.. and a very cheap rotation. Carpenter, Wainwright, McClellan, Garcia, Parisi/Boggs in 09?

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