Comments on: Mike Parisi headed to St. Louis http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:11:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Tom http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16585 Tom Tue, 06 May 2008 18:16:44 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16585 It is understandable to think that because of Parisi’s numbers through the minors, that he might not have great major league success, but the thing is, with the kid Parisi, he is a big game pitcher with mental toughness beyond his years. Mike is a good family friend of mine and I have witnessed his dedication to becoming the pitcher he currently is. I remember a time during his high school years where his father would always be yelling at him telling him to practice, and one day it just clicked. Mike has been on a mission since Day 1, and I really believe that it’s just now all coming together. His numbers at Memphis Triple-A are skewed before his call-up to the Cards..he was 2-1 with an ERA under 2.8 before his last start against Salt Lake where he knocked around a bit…stemming from a fly ball that could have been caught. The fact of the matter is, Mike got called up and he was suggested by Memphis to be that guy…he has a live fastball/sinker, a nasty hook and an above average change and he can hit his spots when he’s settled in and the nerves are gone I don’t know many youngsters who have not been working out of the pen in the minors, to be able to get called up to the bigs, come in his 1st inning and pitch a beautiful debut. Followed by a kid who gets into trouble with 2 outs and has that mental toughness to not let the nerves get the best of him and finish up the inning against the middle of a good NL lineup. Parisi would make an excellen 5 guy for the Cards, you aren’t expecting fireworks from a 5 starter, but someone who can go out there and battle for a solid 5, 6 innings. Mike has proved he can battle. Throw Piniero on the 15 day DL, the guy is not healthy I think that is evident…let Parisi be that spot starter for Piniero see what the kid can do, after all, the Cards view him…exclusively as a starter. It is understandable to think that because of Parisi’s numbers through the minors, that he might not have great major league success, but the thing is, with the kid Parisi, he is a big game pitcher with mental toughness beyond his years.

Mike is a good family friend of mine and I have witnessed his dedication to becoming the pitcher he currently is. I remember a time during his high school years where his father would always be yelling at him telling him to practice, and one day it just clicked. Mike has been on a mission since Day 1, and I really believe that it’s just now all coming together.

His numbers at Memphis Triple-A are skewed before his call-up to the Cards..he was 2-1 with an ERA under 2.8 before his last start against Salt Lake where he knocked around a bit…stemming from a fly ball that could have been caught. The fact of the matter is, Mike got called up and he was suggested by Memphis to be that guy…he has a live fastball/sinker, a nasty hook and an above average change and he can hit his spots when he’s settled in and the nerves are gone

I don’t know many youngsters who have not been working out of the pen in the minors, to be able to get called up to the bigs, come in his 1st inning and pitch a beautiful debut. Followed by a kid who gets into trouble with 2 outs and has that mental toughness to not let the nerves get the best of him and finish up the inning against the middle of a good NL lineup.

Parisi would make an excellen 5 guy for the Cards, you aren’t expecting fireworks from a 5 starter, but someone who can go out there and battle for a solid 5, 6 innings. Mike has proved he can battle.

Throw Piniero on the 15 day DL, the guy is not healthy I think that is evident…let Parisi be that spot starter for Piniero see what the kid can do, after all, the Cards view him…exclusively as a starter.

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By: DJ4508 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16548 DJ4508 Mon, 05 May 2008 16:38:33 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16548 What are the other rumored moves? That's just an awful little thing to put in there to tease us with. What are the other rumored moves? That’s just an awful little thing to put in there to tease us with.

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By: jackson http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16533 jackson Mon, 05 May 2008 05:14:46 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16533 Another thing to considerregarding the increased scoring at Coors Field The walls at Coors are significantly deeper than the any other walls. This means that when you hit a frozen rope in the gap or even down the line, it rolls farther and the chance of men scoring from first on doubles or stretching doubles into triples and even singles into doubles is higher. Also because of the deeper walls, the fielders will play farther back and allow more balls to fall in front of them that they would normally catch. Another thing to considerregarding the increased scoring at Coors Field

The walls at Coors are significantly deeper than the any other walls. This means that when you hit a frozen rope in the gap or even down the line, it rolls farther and the chance of men scoring from first on doubles or stretching doubles into triples and even singles into doubles is higher. Also because of the deeper walls, the fielders will play farther back and allow more balls to fall in front of them that they would normally catch.

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By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16532 azruavatar Mon, 05 May 2008 05:00:36 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16532 Exactly. They've suppressed the run scoring to a certain degree but I don't think you can then say that the ball behaves in the same manner as it does elsewhere. Normalizing the run scoring environment to something more usual isn't the same as having an actual normal run scoring environment. Exactly. They’ve suppressed the run scoring to a certain degree but I don’t think you can then say that the ball behaves in the same manner as it does elsewhere. Normalizing the run scoring environment to something more usual isn’t the same as having an actual normal run scoring environment.

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By: Bill http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16531 Bill Mon, 05 May 2008 04:27:19 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16531 Coors is still, and will always remain, a severe hitters' park. It simply isn't as much of one as it was in pre-humidor days -- according to Baseball Prospectus, it's been about 10% better for hitters than average over the last 5 years combined, rather than up to 40%(!) as in the Good Old Days. No other major-league park has been nearly that hitter-friendly over the last 3 years (the period for which I have data for all 30 teams). It's still an abnormal place to pitch, just not as abnormal as it used to be. As for WHY it's abnormal, the verdict is still out. There is little doubt that the ball carries farther, humidor or no humidor, than at sea level, but smart people argue among themselves as to how much difference that makes. They also argue about whether curve balls are disproportionately affected; the last I checked (I live fairly close to Coors and see a lot of games there), the consensus seemed to be that they weren't, but the data aren't conclusive. Dan Fox is doing some good stuff on this that may have answers by next year. For now, I'd really rather that Parisi not get his first chops there, but better him than a fly-ball machine like Reyes. Coors is still, and will always remain, a severe hitters’ park. It simply isn’t as much of one as it was in pre-humidor days — according to Baseball Prospectus, it’s been about 10% better for hitters than average over the last 5 years combined, rather than up to 40%(!) as in the Good Old Days. No other major-league park has been nearly that hitter-friendly over the last 3 years (the period for which I have data for all 30 teams). It’s still an abnormal place to pitch, just not as abnormal as it used to be.

As for WHY it’s abnormal, the verdict is still out. There is little doubt that the ball carries farther, humidor or no humidor, than at sea level, but smart people argue among themselves as to how much difference that makes. They also argue about whether curve balls are disproportionately affected; the last I checked (I live fairly close to Coors and see a lot of games there), the consensus seemed to be that they weren’t, but the data aren’t conclusive. Dan Fox is doing some good stuff on this that may have answers by next year. For now, I’d really rather that Parisi not get his first chops there, but better him than a fly-ball machine like Reyes.

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By: redbirdavenger http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16530 redbirdavenger Mon, 05 May 2008 02:45:44 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16530 shane - They modify the balls now so they behave normally - hence the fairly normal amount of runs being scored now at Coors. Thin air shouldn't effect how his ball breaks. shane -

They modify the balls now so they behave normally - hence the fairly normal amount of runs being scored now at Coors. Thin air shouldn’t effect how his ball breaks.

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By: Forsch31 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16529 Forsch31 Mon, 05 May 2008 02:25:29 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16529 I remember that Duncan really liked Parisi during spring training, and that the Cardinals seemed to consider him the emergency starter they'd call up from Memphis. The Yahoo Sports! article seems like the most logical theory; Pineiro may get a day of rest, so Parisi takes his slot with Thompson on the DL. As far as Reyes goes...of the pitchers that can be sent down, he appears to be the most expendable of those with options. The Cardinals haven't really used him recently in pressure situations like they have with McClellan. I wonder if it'll be one of those farm system "visits" where the player never actually leaves St. Louis.... I remember that Duncan really liked Parisi during spring training, and that the Cardinals seemed to consider him the emergency starter they’d call up from Memphis. The Yahoo Sports! article seems like the most logical theory; Pineiro may get a day of rest, so Parisi takes his slot with Thompson on the DL.

As far as Reyes goes…of the pitchers that can be sent down, he appears to be the most expendable of those with options. The Cardinals haven’t really used him recently in pressure situations like they have with McClellan. I wonder if it’ll be one of those farm system “visits” where the player never actually leaves St. Louis….

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By: shaneo69 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16528 shaneo69 Mon, 05 May 2008 02:12:27 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16528 Isn't Parisi the guy who has like 6 different curve balls? I thought curve ball pitchers were the ones who got lit up at Coors because the ball doesn't break in the thin air. Isn’t Parisi the guy who has like 6 different curve balls? I thought curve ball pitchers were the ones who got lit up at Coors because the ball doesn’t break in the thin air.

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By: sportsman http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16527 sportsman Mon, 05 May 2008 01:54:37 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16527 one more way to look at this is that mcclellan is destined for later inning duty. parisi provides back-up for piniero if need be as well as long relief. we may not see mcclellan before the 7th (or maybe the 6th as of today) in the very near future (springer's problem are not as low grade as reported). i believe this is why worrell and other short guys were not the ones called up. reyes to memphis gives him a chance to pitch. his fundamental problem has been how erratic his performances have been. sometimes i wonder if he is jason marquis not-so-evil twin, but kind of a knucklehead nonetheless. one more way to look at this is that mcclellan is destined for later inning duty. parisi provides back-up for piniero if need be as well as long relief. we may not see mcclellan before the 7th (or maybe the 6th as of today) in the very near future (springer’s problem are not as low grade as reported). i believe this is why worrell and other short guys were not the ones called up. reyes to memphis gives him a chance to pitch. his fundamental problem has been how erratic his performances have been. sometimes i wonder if he is jason marquis not-so-evil twin, but kind of a knucklehead nonetheless.

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By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2008/05/04/mike-parisi-headed-to-st-louis/#comment-16526 azruavatar Mon, 05 May 2008 01:49:26 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1154#comment-16526 avenger -- Jimenez has fantastic top of the rotation stuff but his command isn't all there yet for his pitches. He's capable of shutting down just about any lineup though. But I agree re: Parisi. I'm not high on him as a pitcher but we'll see. avenger — Jimenez has fantastic top of the rotation stuff but his command isn’t all there yet for his pitches. He’s capable of shutting down just about any lineup though.

But I agree re: Parisi. I’m not high on him as a pitcher but we’ll see.

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