Comments on: Daily Farm Report 4/4/08 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:27:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15648 azruavatar Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:56:24 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15648 Bill - The organization thinks Kozma <i>is</i> a good prospect. Regardless of how we feel, we can't wishcast away the decision makers in the front office and there is a reason they drafted Kozma with their first pick last year. The other problem is acquiring any of those truly high ceiling SS requires something in return. Another team isn't going to take some relief pitching for their stud SS prospect. So unless you want to move Rasmus, good luck getting any of those players. Bill -

The organization thinks Kozma is a good prospect. Regardless of how we feel, we can’t wishcast away the decision makers in the front office and there is a reason they drafted Kozma with their first pick last year.

The other problem is acquiring any of those truly high ceiling SS requires something in return. Another team isn’t going to take some relief pitching for their stud SS prospect. So unless you want to move Rasmus, good luck getting any of those players.

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By: Dustin http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15647 Dustin Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:44:29 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15647 Just got back from watching Kozma play. He didn't really impress me much, he's got an ok looking swing but he doesn't appear to be anything special yet although I'll see him a few more times and get a better idea of him throughout the season. The River Bandits don't hit. The pitching was solid though. In game 1 of the DH we saw Brian Broderick. He was solid through 5 striking out 3 while walking 2 and giving up 5 hits and 2 runs. He had some solid pitches and a nice delivery. In game 2 we saw Nick Additon. He was dominating through 4 strikingout 9 walking 1 and giving up 2 hits with no runs. There was no speed gun on today but both guys were throwing really well especially Additon. Also we got to watch Phillippe Aumont of the Mariners pitch. He was pretty solid but sometimes seemed like he had no clue where his pitch was going. Just got back from watching Kozma play. He didn’t really impress me much, he’s got an ok looking swing but he doesn’t appear to be anything special yet although I’ll see him a few more times and get a better idea of him throughout the season. The River Bandits don’t hit.

The pitching was solid though. In game 1 of the DH we saw Brian Broderick. He was solid through 5 striking out 3 while walking 2 and giving up 5 hits and 2 runs. He had some solid pitches and a nice delivery.

In game 2 we saw Nick Additon. He was dominating through 4 strikingout 9 walking 1 and giving up 2 hits with no runs. There was no speed gun on today but both guys were throwing really well especially Additon.

Also we got to watch Phillippe Aumont of the Mariners pitch. He was pretty solid but sometimes seemed like he had no clue where his pitch was going.

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By: Bill http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15646 Bill Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:57:22 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15646 The problem, AZ, is that none of those middle-infield prospects you cite are particularly _good_ prospects. All three of them, and maybe a few more (Hoffpauir?), have reasonable chances of at least being "average" major-league shortstops or second basemen. But if there's a star among them, it certainly isn't obvious yet. Replacing the current guys with average players does not drive the team toward a pennant. The attractive thing about Lillibridge, to name one, is that his ceiling is really in star territory. So is Brignac's, although I don't think Tampa Bay is likely to trade him for anything less than the moon and the stars. In fact most of the guys on the VEB list have ceilings higher than Martinez' or Ryan's, and probably Kozma's as well. A minor-league system with useful filler at every position is exactly that, useful. Our system has to be better than merely "useful" for the long-term health of the franchise. The problem, AZ, is that none of those middle-infield prospects you cite are particularly _good_ prospects. All three of them, and maybe a few more (Hoffpauir?), have reasonable chances of at least being “average” major-league shortstops or second basemen. But if there’s a star among them, it certainly isn’t obvious yet. Replacing the current guys with average players does not drive the team toward a pennant.

The attractive thing about Lillibridge, to name one, is that his ceiling is really in star territory. So is Brignac’s, although I don’t think Tampa Bay is likely to trade him for anything less than the moon and the stars. In fact most of the guys on the VEB list have ceilings higher than Martinez’ or Ryan’s, and probably Kozma’s as well. A minor-league system with useful filler at every position is exactly that, useful. Our system has to be better than merely “useful” for the long-term health of the franchise.

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By: BirdlandKUSTL http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15645 BirdlandKUSTL Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:50:50 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15645 I was thinking maybe we could have the win loss records of each of our minor league teams listed on the side somewhere. I was thinking maybe we could have the win loss records of each of our minor league teams listed on the side somewhere.

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By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15644 azruavatar Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:13:22 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15644 Jackson - 1). You are probably noticing the piggyback system at PB and QC. They have two starting pitchers assigned to each day and each one will throw around 4 innings or so. It's something they are doing to protect young arms. I don't think many (if any) of the FR writers, including myself, are fans of it, at least at PB. 2) There aren't really any prospects on that list that are 100% bets (Lillibridge would be close though). We've got enough in the way of middle infield both short term (Brendan Ryan) and long term (Martinez, Kozma) that I doubt the club feels any need to acquire other prospects at this point. They still believe in Kozma as the long term answer. Jackson -

1). You are probably noticing the piggyback system at PB and QC. They have two starting pitchers assigned to each day and each one will throw around 4 innings or so. It’s something they are doing to protect young arms. I don’t think many (if any) of the FR writers, including myself, are fans of it, at least at PB.
2) There aren’t really any prospects on that list that are 100% bets (Lillibridge would be close though). We’ve got enough in the way of middle infield both short term (Brendan Ryan) and long term (Martinez, Kozma) that I doubt the club feels any need to acquire other prospects at this point. They still believe in Kozma as the long term answer.

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By: Bill http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15643 Bill Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:46:45 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15643 You know, there's something about Porcello's mechanics in that clip that bothers me, but I can't put my finger on what it is. Maybe it's the way he lands stiff-legged, or something in the release that I can't identify, but it just doesn't look completely right to me. I'm not ready -- yet -- to say that passing on him was the blunder that it superficially appears to be. Incidentally, based on the limited data so far, who are the candidates for demotion once some of the injured pitchers come off the DL and join the major-league team? There will presumably be some trickle-down of demotions, right? You know, there’s something about Porcello’s mechanics in that clip that bothers me, but I can’t put my finger on what it is. Maybe it’s the way he lands stiff-legged, or something in the release that I can’t identify, but it just doesn’t look completely right to me. I’m not ready — yet — to say that passing on him was the blunder that it superficially appears to be.

Incidentally, based on the limited data so far, who are the candidates for demotion once some of the injured pitchers come off the DL and join the major-league team? There will presumably be some trickle-down of demotions, right?

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By: Red Blazer http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15642 Red Blazer Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:51:49 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15642 I am also intrigued by Arni Cruz at C. He must have a good arm from playing 3B but after that I don't know how they decided to put him back there with Anderson ahead and Yadi all signed up for the next few years. I am also intrigued by Arni Cruz at C. He must have a good arm from playing 3B but after that I don’t know how they decided to put him back there with Anderson ahead and Yadi all signed up for the next few years.

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By: Dustin http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15641 Dustin Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:24:14 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15641 Good to see Mather still hitting. I'm going to the QC game today to get my first look at Kozma we'll see how it goes. Good to see Mather still hitting. I’m going to the QC game today to get my first look at Kozma we’ll see how it goes.

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By: the red baron http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15640 the red baron Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:05:45 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15640 Mike- Nope, that's correct. If an error would have accounted for the last out of an inning, then all runs, no matter how the were scored, are unearned from that point on. Seven more runs, on two homers? No earned. It's an interesting rule, to say the least. The new format is just fine, erik, but I didn't have a problem with the other one either. Love the logo. The green before didn't bother me. The content is the thing, baby. Joe Mather is an absolute beast. They can't keep him down forever. Does anyone know exactly how serious the club really is about making Arnoldi Cruz into a catcher? I have no idea what sort of defense he would bring back there, but the offensive numbers he generates would make him an awfully intriguing prospect. Are they committed to it? Mike-
Nope, that’s correct. If an error would have accounted for the last out of an inning, then all runs, no matter how the were scored, are unearned from that point on. Seven more runs, on two homers? No earned. It’s an interesting rule, to say the least.

The new format is just fine, erik, but I didn’t have a problem with the other one either. Love the logo. The green before didn’t bother me. The content is the thing, baby.

Joe Mather is an absolute beast. They can’t keep him down forever.

Does anyone know exactly how serious the club really is about making Arnoldi Cruz into a catcher? I have no idea what sort of defense he would bring back there, but the offensive numbers he generates would make him an awfully intriguing prospect. Are they committed to it?

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By: Big Red http://futureredbirds.com/2008/04/04/daily-farm-report-4408/#comment-15639 Big Red Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:03:08 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1072#comment-15639 mikedallas, I believe you are correct. mikedallas, I believe you are correct.

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