Comments on: Q and A with Kevin Goldstein http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:26:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Bob http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14663 Bob Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:51:30 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14663 Over the past several years, the Cardinal Draft&Devel. people have excelled the most at non-college position players. From Pujols, Molina, and Duncan, to Daric Barton, Bryan Anderson, and Colby Rasmus. (It's entirely possible that in a few years 3 of the 10 best hitters in baseball will be Redbird draftees.) So I say play to your organizational strength, and draft the best high school bat available. As for Kevin's top 11, it looks an awful lot like the standard Baseball America (KG's former employer, of course) overview, without much evidence of Baseball Prospectus-type statistical analysis. I was hoping more of a synthesis. Sigh. Over the past several years, the Cardinal Draft&Devel. people have excelled the most at non-college position players. From Pujols, Molina, and Duncan, to Daric Barton, Bryan Anderson, and Colby Rasmus. (It’s entirely possible that in a few years 3 of the 10 best hitters in baseball will be Redbird draftees.)

So I say play to your organizational strength, and draft the best high school bat available.

As for Kevin’s top 11, it looks an awful lot like the standard Baseball America (KG’s former employer, of course) overview, without much evidence of Baseball Prospectus-type statistical analysis. I was hoping more of a synthesis. Sigh.

]]> By: Sunil http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14662 Sunil Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:08:01 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14662 TICY - Graduated from Tulane in '06 and moved soon after. So excited to see the new Turchin when I go back later this year (and the new Mae's). And we're gonna have a such a nasty team, led by Shooter. TICY - Graduated from Tulane in ‘06 and moved soon after. So excited to see the new Turchin when I go back later this year (and the new Mae’s). And we’re gonna have a such a nasty team, led by Shooter.

]]> By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14661 picklefork Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:14:38 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14661 LHP's I like? Brett DeVall a HS LH...already throwing in the low to mid 90's with a 2 breaking balls and a change. Jarett Martin another HS LHP....has a perfect pitchers build with a little bit of Randy Johnson in his motion...HS'er already pitching in the 90's with at least decent secondary stuff. Kyle Long...Howie's son...6'8 280lbs...hits 96mph on the gun Tim Murphy UCLA...heard good things about him, but need to see him pitch before I can give an opinion either way. DeVall was impressive during his stint on the mound in the Aflac Game...not trying to rip the kid b/c I like him..but his physical comparison on the mound is that if Ron Villone...dont know how much upside he has left physically...but might be this years version of Madison Bumgrarner...big LHP that goes early based on his fastball. LHP’s I like?

Brett DeVall a HS LH…already throwing in the low to mid 90’s with a 2 breaking balls and a change.

Jarett Martin another HS LHP….has a perfect pitchers build with a little bit of Randy Johnson in his motion…HS’er already pitching in the 90’s with at least decent secondary stuff.

Kyle Long…Howie’s son…6′8 280lbs…hits 96mph on the gun

Tim Murphy UCLA…heard good things about him, but need to see him pitch before I can give an opinion either way.

DeVall was impressive during his stint on the mound in the Aflac Game…not trying to rip the kid b/c I like him..but his physical comparison on the mound is that if Ron Villone…dont know how much upside he has left physically…but might be this years version of Madison Bumgrarner…big LHP that goes early based on his fastball.

]]> By: TICY http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14660 TICY Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:10:36 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14660 I go to Tulane and should be able to see a lot of Shooter as the semester finishes up. Awesome name. I go to Tulane and should be able to see a lot of Shooter as the semester finishes up. Awesome name.

]]> By: birdo http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14659 birdo Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:42:56 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14659 Seems like most names that come up with the draft get the same reaction; "He'd be a fine sandwich round pick, but he's an overdraft at #13!" Actually, I remember the same kind of reaction to the Kozma and Mortensen picks last year. Shooter Hunt won't last until the supplemental round. Jemile Weeks won't either, assuming he is healthy. So what's the point of projecting them as good picks for the Cardinals later in the draft? Seems like most names that come up with the draft get the same reaction; “He’d be a fine sandwich round pick, but he’s an overdraft at #13!”

Actually, I remember the same kind of reaction to the Kozma and Mortensen picks last year.

Shooter Hunt won’t last until the supplemental round. Jemile Weeks won’t either, assuming he is healthy. So what’s the point of projecting them as good picks for the Cardinals later in the draft?

]]> By: Nicholas http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14658 Nicholas Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:30:32 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14658 roarke49: I agree that the stats don't mean as much as the "scout's eye" at the lower levels. All the "scout's eye" seems to see is velocity though. roarke49: I agree that the stats don’t mean as much as the “scout’s eye” at the lower levels. All the “scout’s eye” seems to see is velocity though.

]]> By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14657 erik Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:28:48 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14657 p'fork-i have been meaning to get back with you, i've been hard pressed to find email time. anywho, aside from Freidrich what LHP's do you like? p’fork-i have been meaning to get back with you, i’ve been hard pressed to find email time. anywho, aside from Freidrich what LHP’s do you like?

]]> By: roarke49 http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14655 roarke49 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:17:31 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14655 Nicholas: I'm not disagreeing with your basic premise. My point is just that at the low levels the "scouts eye" method of evaluating talent is naturally going to determine who the hot prospects are, because the statistics don't mean as much at that level. Nicholas: I’m not disagreeing with your basic premise. My point is just that at the low levels the “scouts eye” method of evaluating talent is naturally going to determine who the hot prospects are, because the statistics don’t mean as much at that level.

]]> By: southeast redbird http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14654 southeast redbird Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:58:31 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14654 Hunt at #13, no way! He's also logged a lot of innings, let's see how he does this year. I don't see Big League projection there. Hunt at #13, no way! He’s also logged a lot of innings, let’s see how he does this year. I don’t see Big League projection there.

]]> By: picklefork http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/21/q-and-a-with-kevin-goldstein/#comment-14653 picklefork Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:55:47 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=943#comment-14653 Hunt is an ideal Cards pick...has the K's per 9 and is coming off a good Cape Cod LG...something the Cards seem to put a lot of weight on. Unless Hunt cleans up his mech's a bit, gets more consistent with his release point, he will continue to lose his command and be a guy with good stuff who cant always use it to the best of his abilities. Upside....has a little Ottavino in him.....not a guy I want at #13. Again, can a brother get a LHP? Hunt is an ideal Cards pick…has the K’s per 9 and is coming off a good Cape Cod LG…something the Cards seem to put a lot of weight on.

Unless Hunt cleans up his mech’s a bit, gets more consistent with his release point, he will continue to lose his command and be a guy with good stuff who cant always use it to the best of his abilities.

Upside….has a little Ottavino in him…..not a guy I want at #13.

Again, can a brother get a LHP?

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