Comments on: Kyle Russell said Cards gave him a bad vibe http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:24:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: knowhimpersonally http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-18103 knowhimpersonally Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:15:06 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-18103 haha drafted by LA, one of the teams that "passed" last time. I suppose you guys can remember that next time you are making baseless speculations. haha drafted by LA, one of the teams that “passed” last time. I suppose you guys can remember that next time you are making baseless speculations.

]]> By: knowhimpersonally http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-18099 knowhimpersonally Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:13:51 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-18099 How about the fact that he needed to make sure he had his education, the agent, and other expenses paid for before leaving a free college education. He is a classy guy, who had needs that weren't met by the team making the offer, and he declined. Lots of speculatory bullshit on this thread. Seems like you guys would rather talk about how he's not worth it than realize he set the college regular season homerun record now two years in a row. Seems like he should get a little more respect from a bunch of fans. How about the fact that he needed to make sure he had his education, the agent, and other expenses paid for before leaving a free college education. He is a classy guy, who had needs that weren’t met by the team making the offer, and he declined. Lots of speculatory bullshit on this thread. Seems like you guys would rather talk about how he’s not worth it than realize he set the college regular season homerun record now two years in a row. Seems like he should get a little more respect from a bunch of fans.

]]> By: southeast redbird http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-14383 southeast redbird Sun, 10 Feb 2008 05:12:31 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-14383 If a player wants to really play pro ball, that extra money means nothing. It appeared at this point, he just wanted to go back to play college ball. If a player wants to really play pro ball, that extra money means nothing. It appeared at this point, he just wanted to go back to play college ball.

]]> By: awpierce http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-14369 awpierce Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:17:32 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-14369 Didn't this site have a post during the summer about what should the Cardinals pay him? Was there a consensus $ figure? Didn’t this site have a post during the summer about what should the Cardinals pay him? Was there a consensus $ figure?

]]> By: Toddy http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-14368 Toddy Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:48:20 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-14368 He does has a tall, live body, but with a long swing and a tough time making contact. . .oh sure, there's a CHANCE he could be Ryan Howard. But the odds are greater than he'll be Billy Ashley, or Russell Branyan, or any number of guys who eek their way to the majors and end up with a littany of .220 averages. Too many holes in that swing to invest more than $1 mil. I think he'll get to the majors because he'll flash power and a club will have invested a lot of $$$ into him, but he'll be lucky to put up Phil Plantier-type numbers. He does has a tall, live body, but with a long swing and a tough time making contact. . .oh sure, there’s a CHANCE he could be Ryan Howard. But the odds are greater than he’ll be Billy Ashley, or Russell Branyan, or any number of guys who eek their way to the majors and end up with a littany of .220 averages. Too many holes in that swing to invest more than $1 mil. I think he’ll get to the majors because he’ll flash power and a club will have invested a lot of $$$ into him, but he’ll be lucky to put up Phil Plantier-type numbers.

]]> By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-14367 erik Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:14:38 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-14367 Yeah, he comes off looking really bad in that article, I didn't like it at all. I'm glad they didn't sign him with some sort of an sense of entitlement like that. Yeah, he comes off looking really bad in that article, I didn’t like it at all. I’m glad they didn’t sign him with some sort of an sense of entitlement like that.

]]> By: SleepyCA http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-14366 SleepyCA Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:10:19 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-14366 Oh, also, missed this bit in the article- it looks like Russel (or the author) thinks Suttle is going right to the big league club: "Russell got an offer to play in the Cardinals' farm system, while his ex-teammate got an invitation to play for the Yankees." Sorry, but Suttle got an offer to play in the Yankees farm system, and Russell got an offer to play in the Cardinals' farm system. Oh, also, missed this bit in the article- it looks like Russel (or the author) thinks Suttle is going right to the big league club:

“Russell got an offer to play in the Cardinals’ farm system, while his ex-teammate got an invitation to play for the Yankees.”

Sorry, but Suttle got an offer to play in the Yankees farm system, and Russell got an offer to play in the Cardinals’ farm system.

]]> By: SleepyCA http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-14365 SleepyCA Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:05:43 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-14365 This sounds like sour grapes to me. It sounds like the cards drafted him, watched him play with a wooden bat, decided he wasn't as good as they thought he was when they drafted him based off of his inflated aluminum numbers, and then decided not to overpay him, bruising his ego a bit. Either that or he's making these statements so that other teams think it was him who decided not to sign rather than the cardinals writing him off (wasting a draft pick in the process)... I think he'll get his money next year, though, and then go on to set a record for strikeouts in A ball. This sounds like sour grapes to me. It sounds like the cards drafted him, watched him play with a wooden bat, decided he wasn’t as good as they thought he was when they drafted him based off of his inflated aluminum numbers, and then decided not to overpay him, bruising his ego a bit.

Either that or he’s making these statements so that other teams think it was him who decided not to sign rather than the cardinals writing him off (wasting a draft pick in the process)…

I think he’ll get his money next year, though, and then go on to set a record for strikeouts in A ball.

]]> By: Sunil http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-14364 Sunil Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:12:35 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-14364 By shutting out a middle-of-the-road team like the Cards, Russell's basically said that unless he's drafted by a profligate club, his contract demands will be unrealistically high. It stands to reason that he's limited the number of teams who will draft him, ultimately limiting the number of spots he can be drafted. That could end up hurting him, even if he does have a good season, one would think. Maybe he should've taken an agent's advice. By shutting out a middle-of-the-road team like the Cards, Russell’s basically said that unless he’s drafted by a profligate club, his contract demands will be unrealistically high. It stands to reason that he’s limited the number of teams who will draft him, ultimately limiting the number of spots he can be drafted. That could end up hurting him, even if he does have a good season, one would think.

Maybe he should’ve taken an agent’s advice.

]]> By: birdo http://futureredbirds.com/2008/02/08/kyle-russell-said-cards-gave-him-a-bad-vibe/#comment-14363 birdo Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:50:15 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=908#comment-14363 I think Erik hit on something important in the last paragraph - Russell might have had the best season he could possibly have at Texas last year, and then struggled with the wood bat once again after the NCAA season ended. How much can his stock possibly rise from now until June? Will he really get much more than $1M after the '08 draft? I get the feeling this guy might not sign on with a team until 2009... I think Erik hit on something important in the last paragraph - Russell might have had the best season he could possibly have at Texas last year, and then struggled with the wood bat once again after the NCAA season ended.
How much can his stock possibly rise from now until June? Will he really get much more than $1M after the ‘08 draft? I get the feeling this guy might not sign on with a team until 2009…

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