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Reader Top 25–Where does Freese fit?

48 Responses to “Reader Top 25–Where does Freese fit?”

1. 

   birdlandkustl, on December 17th, 2007 at 9:29 pm Said:

   11
2. 

   poorcollegeguy, on December 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pm Said:

   Id put him behind Mather at 16
3. 

   tyler, on December 17th, 2007 at 10:32 pm Said:

   12
4. 

   arch support, on December 17th, 2007 at 10:50 pm Said:

   Fifteen.
5. 

   Carlos, on December 17th, 2007 at 10:54 pm Said:

   #20
6. 

   Richard, on December 17th, 2007 at 10:58 pm Said:

   15
7. 

   roarke, on December 17th, 2007 at 11:03 pm Said:

   17
8. 

   drew, on December 17th, 2007 at 11:14 pm Said:

   15
9. 

   michael, on December 17th, 2007 at 11:55 pm Said:

   20
10. 

    David, on December 18th, 2007 at 12:00 am Said:

    11 - Anyone who puts him lower is overestimating the quality of the Cardinal minor league system, which is not yet up to the caliber of the Padres system.
11. 

    Grant, on December 18th, 2007 at 12:11 am Said:

    18
12. 

    GOOCH, on December 18th, 2007 at 12:15 am Said:

    12
13. 

    Todd, on December 18th, 2007 at 12:52 am Said:

    20
14. 

    JD, on December 18th, 2007 at 2:12 am Said:

    10. I like him more than Craig, but I seem to be in the minority.
15. 

    Don, on December 18th, 2007 at 3:20 am Said:

    15, just ahead of Mather looks about right.
16. 

    JB, on December 18th, 2007 at 4:15 am Said:

    18
17. 

    BigJawnMize, on December 18th, 2007 at 5:31 am Said:

    17
18. 

    alex, on December 18th, 2007 at 5:32 am Said:

    19
19. 

    hugo, on December 18th, 2007 at 6:04 am Said:

    11-14 is where I would put him, but if I have to nail down a location then I will go with 13 but I think he belongs below Craig and above Hoff, the problem comes with Martinez, is Freese better or is Jose’ better? What about Walters? Are Martinez and Walters even in the right spots? It is interesting to go back over the list.
20. 

    nms, on December 18th, 2007 at 6:34 am Said:

    19
21. 

    JMedwick, on December 18th, 2007 at 7:43 am Said:

    15 I guess, though I still think Jay is the better prospect.
22. 

    the red baron, on December 18th, 2007 at 8:03 am Said:

    I think I’d put him after Mather, at 17. He’s a little better than Motte, due to his being playing a position with a little more leverage. (3b vs. probably a setup man ceiling)

    David- Actually, the Padres are almost universally perceived as having one of the weakest farm systems in the game. They have a couple of nice infielders at the very top, (Headley and Antonelli) but very, very little overall depth. It’s gotten a little better the last couple of years, but it’s still pretty damned barren down there.
23. 

    Jeff, on December 18th, 2007 at 8:05 am Said:

    15
24. 

    Luke W, on December 18th, 2007 at 8:32 am Said:

    14
25. 

    Dan J, on December 18th, 2007 at 8:43 am Said:

    looks like 13 to me below craig and martinez
26. 

    Double A, on December 18th, 2007 at 8:45 am Said:

    I’d have to put him in Joe Mather territory…17 maybe.
27. 

    Double A, on December 18th, 2007 at 8:47 am Said:

    I spoke before I read everyone’s comments, hence my Mather comparison is obviously old news. I think it is his age that draws that comparison to Joe.
28. 

    Brandon, on December 18th, 2007 at 9:00 am Said:

    I looked and eyeballed him at #17
29. 

    Nicholas, on December 18th, 2007 at 9:43 am Said:

    I think he fits nicely at #15. I think he’s better than Mather but worse than Martinez, Craig and Hoffpauier.
30. 

    Toddy, on December 18th, 2007 at 9:54 am Said:

    Behind Kozma at 12. This man can rake.
31. 

    Phil, on December 18th, 2007 at 9:58 am Said:

    23
32. 

    charlie, on December 18th, 2007 at 10:06 am Said:

    16
33. 

    Irishman, on December 18th, 2007 at 10:44 am Said:

    17
34. 

    BGT, on December 18th, 2007 at 11:05 am Said:

    I think 14. He and hoff have to be in the same area. right?
35. 

    Silent George, on December 18th, 2007 at 11:13 am Said:

    An older draftee who makes a splash right out of the draft with his bat and eye? Sounds a little like Stavinoha. That said, given that he hasn’t topped out yet, and can play some defense, I think I’d slot him in the 17-20 range. Ever the optimist, I’ll say 17.
36. 

    Nicholas, on December 18th, 2007 at 11:22 am Said:

    Erik,

    Wondering how you are going to rank Freese. Will it be by number of votes for a specific rank/# or will you take the mean of the votes? Just wondering. I actually think the mean would give us a better snapshot of the community’s ranking of him.

    Maybe I just have too much time on my hands.
37. 

    Mike, on December 18th, 2007 at 11:24 am Said:

    This observation is a bit off topic, but I don’t know where else to put it. I don’t understand the complete disappearance of Nick Stavinoa from prospect status on this board. Granted his Triple AAA debut wasn’t brilliant but it wasn’t awful and he was hampered by injuries. I still think he’s got a promising righthanded bat and that he’s going to make the majors in at least a reserve role. If Luke Gorsett is a prospect, Stavinoa is also. I can understand not listing him in the top 25 but not leaving off the prospect chart entirely.
38. 

    joshuadivine, on December 18th, 2007 at 11:24 am Said:

    18, just above Jay.
39. 

    tom, on December 18th, 2007 at 12:29 pm Said:

    10. I give the edge to Freese due to 2006 numbers, ‘07 numbers are a push. Freese did have more runs, RBI, and better OBP this past year.
40. 

    cariocacardinal, on December 18th, 2007 at 1:25 pm Said:

    There is not a single player on that list that I’d trade straight up for Freese. That means he doesn’t belong on the list. It looks like a lot of people would trade Maiques or Todd for him - I wouldn’t even consider it.
41. 

    SB12, on December 18th, 2007 at 1:39 pm Said:

    12
42. 

    3up3down25, on December 18th, 2007 at 2:27 pm Said:

    cario…..you are way off on this one..freese can play ..i put him at #7
43. 

    David, on December 18th, 2007 at 2:31 pm Said:

    Freese might have the potential to reach the level of performance of a Mike Lowell, who was 26 years old when he played his first full ML season. Freese will be 25 in 2008.

    Of course, Lowell got started two-years earlier than Freese (who was a five-year college player). Here is how Lowell’s performance progressed at each milestone of professional experience, compared with the first two years of pro experience for Freese:

    ………………………………………… Freese at age 22, NCAA OPS .968
    ………………………………………… Freese at age 23, NCAA OPS 1.164
    Lowell’s stats:
    Age 21… A- OPS .651 vs. Freese at age 23, A- OPS 1.241
    Age 22… A OPS .768 vs. Freese at age 23, A OPS .874
    ………….. A+ OPS .644 vs. Freese at age 24, A+ OPS .889
    Age 23… AA OPS 1.000
    ………….. AAA OPS .909
    Age 24 AAA OPS .890
    …………… MLB OPS .534
44. 

    erik, on December 18th, 2007 at 3:31 pm Said:

    i’m going to use the votes for ranking #, not add up the votes and equal out the mean, to answer a question asked earlier
45. 

    lawless, on December 18th, 2007 at 3:51 pm Said:

    12
46. 

    Nicholas, on December 18th, 2007 at 4:14 pm Said:

    erik,

    Thanks for the answer.
47. 

    Tom, on December 18th, 2007 at 4:41 pm Said:

    19
48. 

    SilentBob, on December 18th, 2007 at 7:27 pm Said:

    15. Can’t put him ahead of Hoff.