Comments on: A peak at peak translations, part 3 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:26:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Lou Schuler http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10122 Lou Schuler Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:57:48 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10122 Chris, Mather strikes me as following the same pattern as Chris Duncan, except that he hits from the right side, found his stroke in AA at age 24 vs. 23 for Dunc, and seems to be a better defensive player. Haerther, OTOH, seems to be caught in a glut of lefty-hitting corner-outfield types. He has Jay coming up behind him with the same type of offensive profile and better defensive potential, and Dunc and Ankiel in front of him. That said, I'll be happy about any of these guys making it to the varsity, in any capacity. They've all worked hard and deserve whatever shot they get. Chris, Mather strikes me as following the same pattern as Chris Duncan, except that he hits from the right side, found his stroke in AA at age 24 vs. 23 for Dunc, and seems to be a better defensive player.

Haerther, OTOH, seems to be caught in a glut of lefty-hitting corner-outfield types. He has Jay coming up behind him with the same type of offensive profile and better defensive potential, and Dunc and Ankiel in front of him.

That said, I’ll be happy about any of these guys making it to the varsity, in any capacity. They’ve all worked hard and deserve whatever shot they get.

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By: Chris http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10092 Chris Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:13:47 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10092 I really think Eric hits it on the head with is assertation about our corner outfielders, they are basically 4th outfielders in the bigs. Haether and Mather may prove me wrong but I just don't see anything that excites me in the least. I actually prefer Haether over Mather as I believe in his consistency. I think Cody could be a useful player. I hope Mather proves me wrong, but I just don't see him as being anything more than a 4th outfielder-power type pinch hitter. I really think Eric hits it on the head with is assertation about our corner outfielders, they are basically 4th outfielders in the bigs. Haether and Mather may prove me wrong but I just don’t see anything that excites me in the least. I actually prefer Haether over Mather as I believe in his consistency. I think Cody could be a useful player. I hope Mather proves me wrong, but I just don’t see him as being anything more than a 4th outfielder-power type pinch hitter.

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By: cariocacardinal http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10089 cariocacardinal Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:44:20 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10089 If our hitters eqa's are over inflated at Springfield than our pitchers eqa's (what is their equivelent?) should be under inflated. If our hitters eqa’s are over inflated at Springfield than our pitchers eqa’s (what is their equivelent?) should be under inflated.

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By: Lou Schuler http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10073 Lou Schuler Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:04:29 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10073 Erik, thanks for doing the hard work here. You've found an interesting pattern: The AA numbers seem to over-project our guys, while the translations from AAA numbers seem too pessimistic. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the hitting atmosphere in Springfield seems a little too good to be true, even by Texas League standards. Meanwhile, we've known for a while that Memphis is kind of an island in the PCL, a place where pitchers look better and hitters look worse than they would in most other PCL venues. The Cards have a really odd pattern in their affiliates. JC seems to favor hitters and punish pitchers, while Batavia, QC and PB are the opposite -- tough for hitters, good for pitchers. A prospect who makes it to AA then has a great place to hit/tough place to pitch, followed by the opposite in AAA. And the new Busch seems to play somewhere in between. We've seen Duncan, Ryan, and Schumaker hit better in St. Louis than they did in Memphis. Maybe the best way to look at our prospects is to take projections based on their AA and AAA translations and split them down the middle. It'll be interesting to look back at these numbers when we have a group of guys who've played in Springfield, Memphis, and the new Busch, and see if that kind of pattern emerges. Erik, thanks for doing the hard work here.

You’ve found an interesting pattern: The AA numbers seem to over-project our guys, while the translations from AAA numbers seem too pessimistic.

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but the hitting atmosphere in Springfield seems a little too good to be true, even by Texas League standards. Meanwhile, we’ve known for a while that Memphis is kind of an island in the PCL, a place where pitchers look better and hitters look worse than they would in most other PCL venues.

The Cards have a really odd pattern in their affiliates. JC seems to favor hitters and punish pitchers, while Batavia, QC and PB are the opposite — tough for hitters, good for pitchers.

A prospect who makes it to AA then has a great place to hit/tough place to pitch, followed by the opposite in AAA. And the new Busch seems to play somewhere in between. We’ve seen Duncan, Ryan, and Schumaker hit better in St. Louis than they did in Memphis.

Maybe the best way to look at our prospects is to take projections based on their AA and AAA translations and split them down the middle.

It’ll be interesting to look back at these numbers when we have a group of guys who’ve played in Springfield, Memphis, and the new Busch, and see if that kind of pattern emerges.

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By: cariocacardinal http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10061 cariocacardinal Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:10:50 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/11/13/a-peak-at-peak-translations-part-3/#comment-10061 Is Gorsett weak defensively? i've always assumed he was at least fundamentally sound (or am I giving to much credit to the Nebraska bb program?) Is Gorsett weak defensively? i’ve always assumed he was at least fundamentally sound (or am
I giving to much credit to the Nebraska bb program?)

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