Comments on: Idle Thoughts http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:22:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: James Birdwatcher http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-9015 James Birdwatcher Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:32:04 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-9015 I would have to disagree with some of the above-mentioned comments on Parisi. I had the chance to watch him pitch a handful of times in Memphis and I think he most certainly deserves a spot on the 40-man. Hammer Maloney spoke highly of him in an interview. He said that Parisi is probably the closest guy they have to the big leagues and there is a strong liklihood of him pitching in St. Louis next year. If Maloney is saying these things about Parisi, then he's probably spreading the word on him. I've noticed that Parisi is consistently learning and improving and by next year I wouldn't be surprised if he made it to St. Louis. I would have to disagree with some of the above-mentioned comments on Parisi. I had the chance to watch him pitch a handful of times in Memphis and I think he most certainly deserves a spot on the 40-man. Hammer Maloney spoke highly of him in an interview. He said that Parisi is probably the closest guy they have to the big leagues and there is a strong liklihood of him pitching in St. Louis next year. If Maloney is saying these things about Parisi, then he’s probably spreading the word on him. I’ve noticed that Parisi is consistently learning and improving and by next year I wouldn’t be surprised if he made it to St. Louis.

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By: Lou Schuler http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8824 Lou Schuler Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:33:35 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8824 Sorry Az! I've never worked in sports, so I'm just guessing, but I'd be surprised if successful organizations typically clean house and tell the new guy to start over. I could see why a really bad franchise would clean house and let the new boss fill every desk with his own peeps. But the Cards aren't that bad. (I think we all agree on that.) Plus, it's hard to imagine a guy like Luhnow, who's still a relative newbie in baseball, getting so territorial that he'd undermine the new GM. I don't know the man, but I think anybody in his position would welcome a boss who understands and appreciates what he's trying to do. It must've been hell knowing he was in no-man's land between the owner and the boss. Sorry Az!

I’ve never worked in sports, so I’m just guessing, but I’d be surprised if successful organizations typically clean house and tell the new guy to start over. I could see why a really bad franchise would clean house and let the new boss fill every desk with his own peeps. But the Cards aren’t that bad. (I think we all agree on that.)

Plus, it’s hard to imagine a guy like Luhnow, who’s still a relative newbie in baseball, getting so territorial that he’d undermine the new GM. I don’t know the man, but I think anybody in his position would welcome a boss who understands and appreciates what he’s trying to do. It must’ve been hell knowing he was in no-man’s land between the owner and the boss.

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By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8820 azruavatar Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:51:58 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8820 Just for clarification Lou, those were my words (not erik's) and I very much hope you are right. I find it unusual for all these different (and prominent) positions to be filled already before the GM has even had a chance to voice their opinion. Just for clarification Lou, those were my words (not erik’s) and I very much hope you are right. I find it unusual for all these different (and prominent) positions to be filled already before the GM has even had a chance to voice their opinion.

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By: the red baron http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8819 the red baron Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:48:07 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8819 Todd- I'm going to have to disagree with you about the guys with quirky deliveries. There are quite a few sidearmers in the big leagues right now, virtually all of whom succeed with deception, rather than great stuff. Hell, Chris Young of the Padres is making it as a starter based on control of average stuff and great deception. Cla Meredith, also of the Padres, has been an extremely valuable reliever. Mike Myers has been throwing 75 mph junk by hitters for more years than I can count. And just for the record, Worrell has very good stuff. His fastball gets up to 91-92, his slider is above average, and his changeup is good, if inconsistent. He should have no problem carving up right handed hitters as a middle reliever. It's tough to make it as a starter on deception, when hitters have a chance to see your delivery a couple of times. Out of the bullpen, though, with only one shot at a guy with a funky arm angle, hitters don't have a chance to figure out a release point, and even average stuff often proves too much to handle. Todd-

I’m going to have to disagree with you about the guys with quirky deliveries. There are quite a few sidearmers in the big leagues right now, virtually all of whom succeed with deception, rather than great stuff. Hell, Chris Young of the Padres is making it as a starter based on control of average stuff and great deception. Cla Meredith, also of the Padres, has been an extremely valuable reliever. Mike Myers has been throwing 75 mph junk by hitters for more years than I can count. And just for the record, Worrell has very good stuff. His fastball gets up to 91-92, his slider is above average, and his changeup is good, if inconsistent. He should have no problem carving up right handed hitters as a middle reliever.

It’s tough to make it as a starter on deception, when hitters have a chance to see your delivery a couple of times. Out of the bullpen, though, with only one shot at a guy with a funky arm angle, hitters don’t have a chance to figure out a release point, and even average stuff often proves too much to handle.

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By: Lou Schuler http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8818 Lou Schuler Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:31:06 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8818 Erik, I don't see the new GM as having such a big handicap. You need some continuity in an organization during a change of leadership. In my experience, people decide whether they're committed to the organization or loyal to an outgoing boss. If it's the latter, they either get sacked along with the boss (like Bruce Manno), or they get marginalized by the new management and find their own way out the door. But a lot of people will stick around and work enthusiastically with the new boss, either because they love the business, love their jobs, or buy into the new guy's program and philosophy. I know my experiences in publishing aren't exactly analogous, but people are people. You can't assume people who worked for Jocketty or have their own little fiefdoms within the org won't do a good job for the new boss. Erik, I don’t see the new GM as having such a big handicap. You need some continuity in an organization during a change of leadership.

In my experience, people decide whether they’re committed to the organization or loyal to an outgoing boss. If it’s the latter, they either get sacked along with the boss (like Bruce Manno), or they get marginalized by the new management and find their own way out the door.

But a lot of people will stick around and work enthusiastically with the new boss, either because they love the business, love their jobs, or buy into the new guy’s program and philosophy.

I know my experiences in publishing aren’t exactly analogous, but people are people. You can’t assume people who worked for Jocketty or have their own little fiefdoms within the org won’t do a good job for the new boss.

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By: Todd http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8807 Todd Thu, 25 Oct 2007 03:16:29 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8807 Some people would disagree with you about how productive Worrell will be in the big leagues. It's a pretty low percentage of guys with quirky deliveries that fool major league hitters. Chad Bradford is more of an exception than a rule. I don't know that Worrell becomes a big leaguer - maybe for one year. I guess we'll see. Some people would disagree with you about how productive Worrell will be in the big leagues. It’s a pretty low percentage of guys with quirky deliveries that fool major league hitters. Chad Bradford is more of an exception than a rule.

I don’t know that Worrell becomes a big leaguer - maybe for one year. I guess we’ll see.

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By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8806 azruavatar Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:28:03 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8806 <i>The problem with Hoff over Miles as a backuo is that Hoff doesn’t have much experience playing positions other than 2B and I believe his range at SS may be limited.</i> Miles is terrible at SS and barely adequate at 2B. Hoffpauir really isn't a significant downgrade defensively. <i>I don’t think there is any chance that Worrell is better than Springer at this point.</i> Springer was excellent last year . . . and it was totally aberrant with the last 3 years of his career. The odds of him posting another sub-4 FIP aren't very good. Again, the huge strides in his FIP came, in large part, from the very low HR/FB %. Relievers aren't subject to the same kind of norms as starters in this category but I'd bet that Springer is closer to 10% than 3% next year. Given their respective age and cost, I don't have a problem saying that Worrell is as likely to be equably valuable in the bullpen next year as Springer. Worrell is dominant facing right-handers thanks to his quirky sidearm delivery. I wouldn't let him face a left ever but he could be a useful part of the major league bullpen as early as next year and Springer could turn into a pumpkin in a flash. The problem with Hoff over Miles as a backuo is that Hoff doesn’t have much experience playing positions other than 2B and I believe his range at SS may be limited.

Miles is terrible at SS and barely adequate at 2B. Hoffpauir really isn’t a significant downgrade defensively.

I don’t think there is any chance that Worrell is better than Springer at this point.

Springer was excellent last year . . . and it was totally aberrant with the last 3 years of his career. The odds of him posting another sub-4 FIP aren’t very good. Again, the huge strides in his FIP came, in large part, from the very low HR/FB %. Relievers aren’t subject to the same kind of norms as starters in this category but I’d bet that Springer is closer to 10% than 3% next year. Given their respective age and cost, I don’t have a problem saying that Worrell is as likely to be equably valuable in the bullpen next year as Springer. Worrell is dominant facing right-handers thanks to his quirky sidearm delivery. I wouldn’t let him face a left ever but he could be a useful part of the major league bullpen as early as next year and Springer could turn into a pumpkin in a flash.

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By: SleepyCA http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8798 SleepyCA Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:12:38 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8798 <i>"Players like Worrell and Perez are better options than the Jimenez’ and Springer’s of the world."</i> I don't think there is any chance that Worrell is better than Springer at this point. Perez has a chance to be, but he's not there either. Next year he should be, and he might be by mid-season next year (or even early on if he gets things figured out in the off-season and has a good spring training) but he isn't a better option <i>right now</i>. No argument about jimenez. “Players like Worrell and Perez are better options than the Jimenez’ and Springer’s of the world.”

I don’t think there is any chance that Worrell is better than Springer at this point. Perez has a chance to be, but he’s not there either. Next year he should be, and he might be by mid-season next year (or even early on if he gets things figured out in the off-season and has a good spring training) but he isn’t a better option right now.

No argument about jimenez.

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By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8796 erik Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:25:03 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8796 oh, yes. we will have to ask mr. anderson for a moment of his time to speak w/us here at FR. oh, yes. we will have to ask mr. anderson for a moment of his time to speak w/us here at FR.

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By: cariocacardinal http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8795 cariocacardinal Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:18:22 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/10/24/idle-thoughts/#comment-8795 I think there could be advantages for the new GM having a staff in place at least for this year. If we get a guy that has focused mostly on development, having a guy like Mo that may have more experience at contract negotiations could be good. Another critical opening will be the minor league coordinator - Riggleman's old job. I wonder wether the new GM will have final say on that or whether Luhnow will. I think the Luhnow situation is going to be the most critical management test but I'm also sure that will be discussed during any interviews. I think there could be advantages for the new GM having a staff in place at least for this year. If we get a guy that has focused mostly on development, having a guy like Mo that may have more experience at contract negotiations could be good. Another critical opening will be the minor league coordinator - Riggleman’s old job. I wonder wether the new GM will have final say on that or whether Luhnow will. I think the Luhnow situation is going to be the most critical management test but I’m also sure that will be discussed during any interviews.

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