Comments on: 7/29/07 Daily Prospect Report http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:25:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Chris C. http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4691 Chris C. Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:22:41 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4691 Oh, no doubt that a prospect like Anderson is more valuable behind the plate (assuming even slightly below-average defense) than at third base. I guess my point in regard to commenting on the "average at position" approach is that common sense can result in better guidelines for positional scarcity. Fewer players are capable of catching than are capable of playing third base, and if Anderson becomes a .280 / .340 / .420 type of hitter that would be great production coming from a catcher and the kind of production that will inspire upgrades via free agency or trades at third base. Of course, it's more complicated than that in reality because catching is sucha unique position. Some players don't handle the physical demands over a full season very well. Sometimes teams move players off the position to allow promising bats to develop more quickly - that was the Pirates' rationale with Neil Walker and so far it has worked as planned. Oh, no doubt that a prospect like Anderson is more valuable behind the plate (assuming even slightly below-average defense) than at third base. I guess my point in regard to commenting on the “average at position” approach is that common sense can result in better guidelines for positional scarcity. Fewer players are capable of catching than are capable of playing third base, and if Anderson becomes a .280 / .340 / .420 type of hitter that would be great production coming from a catcher and the kind of production that will inspire upgrades via free agency or trades at third base.

Of course, it’s more complicated than that in reality because catching is sucha unique position. Some players don’t handle the physical demands over a full season very well. Sometimes teams move players off the position to allow promising bats to develop more quickly - that was the Pirates’ rationale with Neil Walker and so far it has worked as planned.

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By: Erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4615 Erik Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:33:29 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4615 I see what you're saying Chris. I probably should've thought it through a little bit. The Cards are kicking the idea around of moving Bryan Anderson to another position. 3rd base might make some sense given Rolen's health/struggles, but I think he's too valuable behind the plate to be moved. Your thoughts? I see what you’re saying Chris. I probably should’ve thought it through a little bit. The Cards are kicking the idea around of moving Bryan Anderson to another position. 3rd base might make some sense given Rolen’s health/struggles, but I think he’s too valuable behind the plate to be moved. Your thoughts?

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By: Mike http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4595 Mike Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:01:16 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4595 Yea, there is no reason Todd shouldn't be in QC by now. He is a college pitcher, so I see no problem fast tracking him. Also, how can Kozma be rated 5th, when he has played...2 professional games....in the gulf coast league? Yea, there is no reason Todd shouldn’t be in QC by now. He is a college pitcher, so I see no problem fast tracking him.

Also, how can Kozma be rated 5th, when he has played…2 professional games….in the gulf coast league?

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By: Brock#20 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4594 Brock#20 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:57:11 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4594 I'm not going to dog Adam, like so many blog posters like to do, but I respectfully disagree with his SS list. Hu's stock is way up, and should be ranked higher than the bottom half of that list. It says he defers to recent production, and Hu has been hitting over .300 for awhile now. Sickels has him one spot below Brignac on his OVERALLL list. I just don't see how you rank Hu below Kozma, who at the time he wrote it hadn't had a major league AB. Adam's thirdbase list though, I agree with completely. I'm not a total jerk. I’m not going to dog Adam, like so many blog posters like to do, but I respectfully disagree with his SS list. Hu’s stock is way up, and should be ranked higher than the bottom half of that list. It says he defers to recent production, and Hu has been hitting over .300 for awhile now. Sickels has him one spot below Brignac on his OVERALLL list.

I just don’t see how you rank Hu below Kozma, who at the time he wrote it hadn’t had a major league AB.

Adam’s thirdbase list though, I agree with completely. I’m not a total jerk.

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By: Grant http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4576 Grant Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:14:40 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4576 In regards to Jesse Todd: What are the Cardinals waiting for? They need to promote him now. Also, have they announced the Cardinals' International signings for this year? I heard they were spending more on International players this year, I'm interested to see who they signed. In regards to Jesse Todd: What are the Cardinals waiting for? They need to promote him now.

Also, have they announced the Cardinals’ International signings for this year? I heard they were spending more on International players this year, I’m interested to see who they signed.

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By: Chris C. http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4573 Chris C. Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:29:18 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4573 Mountain Dew. I love it. One thing I'll say about the "average hitter at each position" approach is that it's a deeply flawed way to evaluate offensive standards at each position. If you do what Kevin did and compare shortstops and second basemen, for example, you might be tempted to think of the positions as having equal standards. But while most of those elite-hitting shortstops could move to second base if they needed to, you can't necessarily claim the reverse is true with regard to elite-hitting second basemen moving to shortstop. Could you imagine a managerpenciling in Jeff Kent at shortstop? So the population of good bats available to play second base is going to be considerably greater than the population of good bats avilable to play shortstop... regardless of what the averages are at each position. Mountain Dew. I love it.

One thing I’ll say about the “average hitter at each position” approach is that it’s a deeply flawed way to evaluate offensive standards at each position. If you do what Kevin did and compare shortstops and second basemen, for example, you might be tempted to think of the positions as having equal standards.
But while most of those elite-hitting shortstops could move to second base if they needed to, you can’t necessarily claim the reverse is true with regard to elite-hitting second basemen moving to shortstop. Could you imagine a managerpenciling in Jeff Kent at shortstop?
So the population of good bats available to play second base is going to be considerably greater than the population of good bats avilable to play shortstop… regardless of what the averages are at each position.

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By: SleepyCA http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4572 SleepyCA Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:17:37 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/29/72907-daily-prospect-report/#comment-4572 Joe Mather raises his BA ~20 points and his OPS by ~70 in one day. I know it's small sample sizes, but I feel so much better seeing him as a .233/.303/.442 hitter than a .214/.279/.397 hitter... I wonder what the clubhouse atmosphere is like between Mather and Ankiel and Stavinoha? Joe Mather raises his BA ~20 points and his OPS by ~70 in one day. I know it’s small sample sizes, but I feel so much better seeing him as a .233/.303/.442 hitter than a .214/.279/.397 hitter…

I wonder what the clubhouse atmosphere is like between Mather and Ankiel and Stavinoha?

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