Comments on: Monday Afternoon Reading http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:30:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Lou Schuler http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3869 Lou Schuler Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:17:02 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3869 Wasn't Warner the manager at Palm Beach in 2005? They had a losing record for the season, but won the league championship. My memory is very fuzzy here, but I believe that was the first minor-league championship for a Cardinals affiliate since Memphis won the PCL in 2000, with Albert Pujols joining the roster in time for the playoffs. I don't know if it means anything, but Warner, at age 36, managed to win a championship in the FSL with a sub-.500 team. And now, at 38, he's already won the first-half division title in the Texas League and has the team on top again so far in the second half. My guess is that he's a pretty good manager, although I certainly agree with AZ that he also has a pretty good team to work with. Wasn’t Warner the manager at Palm Beach in 2005? They had a losing record for the season, but won the league championship.

My memory is very fuzzy here, but I believe that was the first minor-league championship for a Cardinals affiliate since Memphis won the PCL in 2000, with Albert Pujols joining the roster in time for the playoffs.

I don’t know if it means anything, but Warner, at age 36, managed to win a championship in the FSL with a sub-.500 team. And now, at 38, he’s already won the first-half division title in the Texas League and has the team on top again so far in the second half.

My guess is that he’s a pretty good manager, although I certainly agree with AZ that he also has a pretty good team to work with.

]]> By: whiteyball http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3846 whiteyball Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:52:45 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3846 I meant California Collegiate League I meant California Collegiate League

]]> By: whiteyball http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3845 whiteyball Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:51:21 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3845 I believe (hope) that the Cardinals are waiting to see how Russell does with a wooden bat in the California According to the SB Foresters Website, Russell is hitting .321/.525/.571 with 2 HRs and 6 RBIs in 28 ABs. Russell has 11 BBs compared to 13 Ks. www.whiteyball.com I believe (hope) that the Cardinals are waiting to see how Russell does with a wooden bat in the California
According to the SB Foresters Website, Russell is hitting .321/.525/.571 with 2 HRs and 6 RBIs in 28 ABs. Russell has 11 BBs compared to 13 Ks.

http://www.whiteyball.com

]]> By: Ryan http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3842 Ryan Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:36:00 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3842 I think I'd be a lot more upset if they signed Kozma and left Russell out in the cold. My problem with Luhnow is the one echoed through some of the comments, about how they have deviated from what made that draft in 2005 something to look forward to. I think I’d be a lot more upset if they signed Kozma and left Russell out in the cold. My problem with Luhnow is the one echoed through some of the comments, about how they have deviated from what made that draft in 2005 something to look forward to.

]]> By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3840 azruavatar Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:40:48 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3840 Whitey - He could be. I'm pretty ambivalent toward managers in general outside of the extremes. I honestly don't know enough to make an evaluation of Warner. The praise in the article for handling the bullpen was, imo, a little over done since Warner has been gifted with fantastic arms this year. I think it's more a case of talented relievers than good matchups. Whitey - He could be. I’m pretty ambivalent toward managers in general outside of the extremes. I honestly don’t know enough to make an evaluation of Warner. The praise in the article for handling the bullpen was, imo, a little over done since Warner has been gifted with fantastic arms this year. I think it’s more a case of talented relievers than good matchups.

]]> By: azruavatar http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3839 azruavatar Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:39:05 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3839 Appreciate the kind words Bill. You and erik both make good points. Kozma has very little leverage unless the Cardinals really think he's something special -- otherwise do-over next year. Russell does have leverage because that's simply a lost draft pick if we don't sign him. Appreciate the kind words Bill.

You and erik both make good points. Kozma has very little leverage unless the Cardinals really think he’s something special — otherwise do-over next year. Russell does have leverage because that’s simply a lost draft pick if we don’t sign him.

]]> By: Bill http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3837 Bill Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:25:16 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3837 It seems like it makes more fiscal sense to throw your money at Russell...if he doesn't sign you lose the pick. If Kozma doesn't sign you at least receive a similar placed pick the following year. Financially, it seems like it would make sense to calculate each pick's value and budget while considering that factor. (though not sure if the Cards see it that way). Hey AZ and Erik...wanted to compliment you guys on the site. It was great when you first started it...but it has really evolved into something special. It has taken on the same intelligent and analytical tone that we all love with VEB - while covering an aspect of the team that was largely uncovered before (no slight meant to VEB - it is just impossible to cover everything). Also, we all know this is an increasingly important aspect of our team's future. Cheers and thanks to both of you...this is a daily can't miss site for me. It seems like it makes more fiscal sense to throw your money at Russell…if he doesn’t sign you lose the pick. If Kozma doesn’t sign you at least receive a similar placed pick the following year. Financially, it seems like it would make sense to calculate each pick’s value and budget while considering that factor. (though not sure if the Cards see it that way).

Hey AZ and Erik…wanted to compliment you guys on the site. It was great when you first started it…but it has really evolved into something special. It has taken on the same intelligent and analytical tone that we all love with VEB - while covering an aspect of the team that was largely uncovered before (no slight meant to VEB - it is just impossible to cover everything). Also, we all know this is an increasingly important aspect of our team’s future. Cheers and thanks to both of you…this is a daily can’t miss site for me.

]]> By: erik http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3836 erik Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:06:06 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3836 I could care less if kozma now if kozma signs. he's a mixed bag. BA likes him a lot, gomez says he has a crap swing and more of the other guys i'm inclined to listen to don't care for the pick. with the new rules, they get a mulligan next year. nothing lost. he needs to take the money offered or walk, he has little leverage here. as far as the draft, i didn't like it but it's just far too early for me to judge. i think the three year rule is in effect here. so far, mortenson, todd, hill and cruz are looking pretty decent. I could care less if kozma now if kozma signs. he’s a mixed bag. BA likes him a lot, gomez says he has a crap swing and more of the other guys i’m inclined to listen to don’t care for the pick. with the new rules, they get a mulligan next year. nothing lost. he needs to take the money offered or walk, he has little leverage here.

as far as the draft, i didn’t like it but it’s just far too early for me to judge. i think the three year rule is in effect here. so far, mortenson, todd, hill and cruz are looking pretty decent.

]]> By: Bill http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3835 Bill Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:02:48 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3835 I completely agree. That draft has appeared successful from the start. It is not just something that has evolved. Rasmus, Anderson, and Garcia have been doing well since each of their first respective pro seasons. Yet…and I was saying the same thing during this years draft…they seem to have deviated. The math doesn’t add up. It would seem that whatever method they were using to evaluate HS players then was working very well. Did they change their approach . . . or did the purse strings tighten? I completely agree.

That draft has appeared successful from the start. It is not just something that has evolved. Rasmus, Anderson, and Garcia have been doing well since each of their first respective pro seasons.

Yet…and I was saying the same thing during this years draft…they seem to have deviated. The math doesn’t add up. It would seem that whatever method they were using to evaluate HS players then was working very well.

Did they change their approach . . . or did the purse strings tighten?

]]> By: whiteyball http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3834 whiteyball Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:44:07 +0000 http://futureredbirds.com/2007/07/16/monday-afternoon-reading/#comment-3834 az, I just have this weird feeling that Warner could be the man to replace LaRussa, ala Eric Wedge. www.whiteyball.com az,
I just have this weird feeling that Warner could be the man to replace LaRussa, ala Eric Wedge.

http://www.whiteyball.com

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